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1998-11-03 17:22Michael SteinNick I hate to let this one go by... >Can see why Tom Jenkinson has changed direction to a

From:: Michael Stein <mstein@MasterChart.com>
To:: 'idm@hyperreal.org' <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:22:18 -0600
Subject:: (idm) Slowdive (was Re: Clifford Gilberto)

Nick I hate to let this one go by...

quoted 4 lines Can see why Tom Jenkinson has changed direction to avoid being

>Can see why Tom Jenkinson has changed direction to avoid being >associated with the copiests (probably why My Bloody Valentine >quitted after 'Loveless' to avoid being associated with >Chapterhouse, Slowdive and the other crappy shoegazer bands).

I really don't think Slowdive (one of my favorite bands of all time, right up there with Joy Division, Autechre, Stereolab and Aphex) are just a "crappy shoegazer band." Granted, "Just for a Day" may not have been the most original album, but they've had excellent collaborations with both Eno and Reload. Not to mention their masterpiece "Pygmalion" which is an obvious influence to the likes of Flying Saucer Attack, Labradford, Low and the like. For those who care, Slowdive's latest incarnation Mojave 3 just released an album produced Mark Van Hoen (aka Locust). -Mike

1998-11-03 17:41-nick^w-> I really don't think Slowdive (one of my favorite bands of all time, > right up there wi

From:: -nick^w- <mobfhnjw@fs2.scg.man.ac.uk>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:41:22 GMT
Subject:: Re: (idm) Slowdive (was Re: Clifford Gilberto)
Reply to:: (idm) Slowdive (was Re: Clifford Gilberto)

quoted 4 lines I really don't think Slowdive (one of my favorite bands of all time,

> I really don't think Slowdive (one of my favorite bands of all time, > right up there with Joy Division, Autechre, Stereolab and Aphex) are > just a "crappy shoegazer band." Granted, "Just for a Day" may not have > been the most original album

okay, maybe Slowdive weren't the worst of the 'crappy shoegazer bands' :) - I even liked some of their tracks. But the albums used to really drag on.. :)

quoted 1 line they've had excellent collaborations with both Eno and Reload.

>they've had excellent collaborations with both Eno and Reload.

The Reload thing was just a case of them remixing one of slowdive's tracks wasn't it? - unless there was some other collaborative piece?

quoted 2 lines For those who care, Slowdive's latest incarnation Mojave 3 just released

> For those who care, Slowdive's latest incarnation Mojave 3 just released > an album produced Mark Van Hoen (aka Locust).

I've got the first Mojave 3 album and by sheer coinincidence popped it on last night to check whether my feelings had changed toward it. They hadn't. Although some of it is good in a slow, minimal, dreamy sort of way, there isn't enough variation - one song sounding like another - and there are frequent lapses into sounding dreary. I'm interested in how the new one sounds though, it's been a while since the last came out (was it 1995?). Nick

Re: (idm) Slowdive (was Re: Clifford Gilberto)